Which is best.., a British or a Chinese made chandelier?

Are Chinese Chandeliers Good Quality?

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Should I Buy A Chinese Or A British Made Chandelier?

Chinese chandeliers can vary in quality depending on the manufacturer and the specific chandelier in question. China is known for its extensive manufacturing capabilities and produces a wide range of products, including chandeliers.

Some Chinese chandeliers are crafted with attention to detail, using quality materials and skilled craftsmanship, and can be quite impressive in terms of design and functionality. These chandeliers can offer an affordable option for those looking to add elegance and illumination to their spaces.

However, it's important to note that not all Chinese chandeliers are of high quality. As with any product, there can be variations in craftsmanship, materials used, and overall build quality. It's crucial to research and consider the reputation of the manufacturer and read reviews from other buyers to assess the quality of a specific Chinese chandelier before making a purchase.

Many Chinese chandeliers use lower quality crystals, (which do not sparkle as much as they could) and are often further 'spaced' apart on the frame. This can mean it is possible to see through the curtain of crystals through to the bulbs within.

Lower quality crystals are also prone to tarnishing so the chandelier is less likely retain intrinsic value. By comparison, (a better made or antique chandelier) will maintain its value, (or even appreciate).

Ultimately, whether a Chinese chandelier is "good" or not will depend on individual preferences, budget, and the specific product's quality. It's advisable to thoroughly evaluate the chandelier's specifications, materials and construction before making a decision.

Should I Buy A Chinese Or A British Made Chandelier?

The decision between buying a Chinese or British chandelier ultimately depends on your personal preferences, budget, and specific requirements. Here are a few factors to consider:

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Quality and craftsmanship: British chandeliers are often associated with a long history of fine craftsmanship and attention to detail. They may be handcrafted using traditional techniques and high-quality materials. On the other hand, Chinese chandeliers can vary in quality, as mentioned earlier. Some Chinese manufacturers produce chandeliers of excellent quality, while others may have inconsistent craftsmanship. It's important to research the specific manufacturer and read customer reviews to assess the quality.

Design and style: British chandeliers may exhibit classic, traditional, or contemporary designs that align with European aesthetics. Chinese chandeliers often feature a wide range of styles, including traditional Chinese designs, as well as modern and contemporary designs. Consider your preferred style and how it fits with the overall decor of your space.

Budget: British chandeliers are generally associated with higher price points due to factors such as craftsmanship and brand reputation. Chinese chandeliers, on the other hand, can offer more affordable options across a wide price range. If budget is a significant consideration, Chinese chandeliers may provide more cost-effective options.

Availability: British chandeliers may be more readily available in the UK or regions where British manufacturers have a strong presence. Chinese chandeliers, being manufactured in China, are often more widely available globally both through local suppliers and online platforms.

Ultimately, it's important to carefully evaluate the quality, design, price, and availability of both Chinese and British chandeliers. Consider your personal preferences, the desired style and your budget to make an informed decision that aligns with your specific needs.

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I have a new customer who bought a chandelier from Restoration Hardware. Price tag is around $5k and it's just under 300 lbs with the crystal on't. My job is to install a light lift and hang the chandelier, home run for the chandelier, move some recessed lights out of the way, install eyeball trims etc. on a 17' ceiling. Yesterday went without a hitch, as did today up till 3:30 PM when we unboxed the beast.

It has a mounting kit which the instructions show getting bolted to a joist and a quick link is used to attach the rod to that to hang the light. It turns out the drawing on the instructions is completely out of scale and what they provided is a 1" rigid down rod (which the canopy slips over) with a hook welded to the end of it and absolutely no way to attach the thing to the lowered plate of the light lift. The plate is 3/8" steel, 1.5"x9" or so, and evidently the only way the manufacturer intended the light to hang. There are no threaded fittings like with every other chandelier I've ever hung. The tech guy at Alladin has never seen a mounting means like this. The canopy has a UL sticker on it.

I've come up with a way to attach it to the light lift plate, so that's not a problem. I'm simply curious about whether the standard types of mounting methods using threaded rod and a screw collar loop are a voluntary standard or not, and does the mounting design of this fixture violate anything? I can't imagine how that steel plate and 1" pipe with a hanger welded to it for the quick link can be made to fit through any standard US box to contain the splice (and the chandelier instructions don't mention this at all) without doing some major damage to the box which will also be open on top. Crazy. How can this design be accepted for use in the US with the kind of hardware we use? There is no way it's UL approved. Its probably a counterfeit sticker. You could check with UL to be sure. If there is one it still could have been fraudulently obtained by the manufacturer.

Look at the install instructions, it does not show an electrical box! It does not have any hardware to accommodate a NEC REQUIRED electrical box. So it could never be approved by UL, or ETL.

I would put the problem back on the customer so he can force the lighting store to make good with a proper light. Let them wast their time instead of yours.

If you do install it your taking all liability onto yourself because you would have to do a little engineering to make it work. In my state it would never pass inspection. Something is just not right here and its not your fault.

RW

Before you scream.. i do think that the fixture is listed correct. I don't have my current code book but loooking at
My . 314.27 outlet boxes for ceiling fixtures can only be used for 50lbs or less otherwise independently supported
I doubt you will find a box listed for 300lbs. I would also look at 410.16 means of support

I have done a few lifts in the past with a pancake setup and always had a problem with the contact when the fixture was fully raised
there is an other type that uses a coiled wire but look like cr@p good luck

It's not an issue of supporting it by the box or not. The problem is that the instructions don't show any type of box and installing a box would be quite odd.

I guess you could mount the steel plate to the side of the joist like it shows, cut out a 1 5/8" hole in the back of a pancake box, and then slide the pancake box up over the steel plate and attach it to the bottom of the joist. Does the canopy of the fixture label it's volume? I'll try and answer some of the questions:

I'm not mounting it to the ceiling, but to the bottom plate of an Alladin light lift. The transition I came up with is a pin shackle ( lb. rated) that will go through the threaded coupling provided with the light lift and support the loop on the end of the pipe. This solution holds the top of the canopy away from the ceiling about 1", so we're looking at getting a medallion to bridge the gap. The light lift wiring is contained in a 4" round box and contact is via two plates that meet when light is fully raised. Wiring from the bottom (moving) plate will be contained in the canopy.

The instructions do refer to an existing JB, but that doesn't make a lot of sense since it could be located far from the joist which the chandelier will have to hang on (in the case of a static mount scenario). The canopy measures 8" across at the top and is basically a half sphere, so volume is ample, but unless you drill the 1 5/8" hole through the back of a box, there is no room between the rod and edge of the canopy to fit anything but a 3" round old work box.

I did call Restoration Hardware first to ask if there was any other mounting kit available. They had no other information than the instruction sheet that came with the light. Their next step is to have the vendor contact me to clarify the issue (7 to 10 days). I can just imagine how that call will go - Heavy Chinese accent, 500 word English vocabulary with no knowledge of US electrical terms. I may as well just shoot myself now

Needless to say, I can't be making a very good impression on my customer. They're probably thinking, "A company like Restoration Hardware couldn't possibly sell anything that isn't right, so any issues must be a result of the electrician's incompetence." Thanks, Won Hong Lo!

If you were to hang the fixture from the ceiling as shown in the instructions, couldn't you mount a 2x4 bracket box on the other side of the joist from the hanger? Would the canopy cover it? I don't think there is anything that says the fixture has to be attached to the box.

-Hal

I'm not sure it would cover it - I'd have to measure it exactly. I've seen hangers like this in Europe, but they're for a j-hook in a block ceiling or a wooden beam, and no j-box is needed. This just doesn't seem like something that should be allowed in the US considering our electrical codes...